I agree 100% Lear the basics first, and these both do that. Then climb the performance ladder.RED BARON said:Actually these two books taught me allot of basics to work from,and I would recommend them to the beginner or novice simply because of the basic information provided for you to expand on. The basic information allows you to ask informed educated questions to your fellow racers. People will give you allot more info (good info) when you ask a smart question. Stupid questions usually get stupid answers. If I have learned anything from one of the Turbo Gods (Buck Fitty) do your homework.